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Old Jan 07, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31   #1
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Question R/N Build pls help!

Hey i am new here having trouble with my R/N pvp build.
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6 Blood Magic
7 Death Magic
7 Curses
6 Beast Mastery
7 Expertise
7 Wilderness Survival
8 Marksmanship

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Barrage
Melandru's Arrows
Offering Of Blood

My Current Build
Shadow of Fear
Life Siphon
Lightning Reflexes
Hunters Shot
Read The Wind
Melandru's Arrows
Charm Animal
Predatory Season
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Old Jan 07, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36   #2
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Your arrtibutes are way too spread. Try to get above 10 in at least 2, and one maxed.
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Old Jan 07, 2008, 08:42 PM // 20:42   #3
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Cheers i will sort that out i mainly need some help with my build though.
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Old Jan 07, 2008, 08:59 PM // 20:59   #4
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This is a cheap provocation, I don't believe that anyone would come up with such an idea.
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Old Jan 07, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20   #5
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Exactly what purpose are you trying to accomplish with that, might I say, assortment of randomly generated skills?
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Old Jan 07, 2008, 09:46 PM // 21:46   #6
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6 Blood Magic
7 Death Magic
7 Curses
6 Beast Mastery
7 Expertise
7 Wilderness Survival
8 Marksmanship
omfg,

please get this:

12 expertise
9 markmanship
9 wilderness survival

done ..

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savage shot, distracting shot, troll unguent, dual shot, melandrus arrows, natural stride, res, mending touch
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Old Jan 07, 2008, 09:53 PM // 21:53   #7
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Cough go toucher, cough
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Old Jan 07, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47   #8
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Not a very helpful bunch he was only after a bit of help. But you slag his build instead of pointing him in the right direction.
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Old Jan 08, 2008, 02:09 AM // 02:09   #9
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Not a very helpful bunch he was only after a bit of help. But you slag his build instead of pointing him in the right direction.
At least commenting on the OP's build... (and not just complaining about others not being helpful - because that's hypocritical)
@op
Your build is truly useless unless you'd be fighting level 5 foes, I don't mean to be hurtful but there it is. With what you have this is what I'd do:

10 curses, 8+2 expertise, 12+2+1 marksmanship

[skill]Distracting Shot[/skill][skill]Dual Shot[/skill][skill]Savage Shot[/skill][skill]Melandru's Arrows[/skill][skill]Mark of Pain[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill]
With the rest, if you have NF take Forked Arrow, if not Factions? Needling Shot. Dodge or Whirling Defense perhaps and if you find you can manage energy ok Insidious Parasite may be a good addition, if not parasitic bond may be better (good for covering mark of pain, and gives you healing). Last up Res sig. This isn't gonna be 'the best' but it may move you towards the direction of better.
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Old Jan 08, 2008, 04:04 AM // 04:04   #10
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I'd suggest changing professions imo. :/

I don't find the necro secondary to be particularly useful to Rangers.
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Old Jan 08, 2008, 04:36 AM // 04:36   #11
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10 curses, 8+2 expertise, 12+2+1 marksmanship

[skill]Distracting Shot[/skill][skill]Dual Shot[/skill][skill]Savage Shot[/skill][skill]Melandru's Arrows[/skill][skill]Mark of Pain[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill]
Wait.
Mel's Arrows - an elite Wilderness prep - and 0 WS?
Lenny, lenny lenny... what have we been smoking?

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Old Jan 08, 2008, 06:42 AM // 06:42   #12
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the good shit
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Old Jan 08, 2008, 09:21 AM // 09:21   #13
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At least commenting on the OP's build... (and not just complaining about others not being helpful - because that's hypocritical)
Was tired and cranky. Felt bad for the dude. But is you not complaining about me complaining about them complaining not hypocritical? :s

If it were down to me (im guessing the OP only has proph? if not it would be good if he posted and let us know which campaigns he has ^^ ) I would run [skill=text]Crippling Shot[/skill] im actually shocked that no one has recommended it so far as its one of the best Ranger elites as far as PvP goes So try and gain 3k balth faction or cap the skill in PvE

Maybe try something along the lines of...

[skill]Crippling Shot[/skill][skill]Savage Shot[/skill][skill]Distracting Shot[/skill][skill]Apply Poison[/skill][skill]Rend Enchantments[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Marksmanship 12+1+1
Expertise 9+1
Wilderness Survival 8+1
Curses (the rest, should be around 5ish)


I left 2 skills optional here as im unsure of which area of PvP your aiming for. If your going to be jumping into RA its probably your best bet to bring [skill=text]Troll Unguent[/skill] and [skill=text]Antidote Signet[/skill]. The same applies to AB however drop your Res Sig for some form of block way. [skill=text]Lightning Reflexes[/skill] does nicely and [skill=text]Throw Dirt[/skill] works quite well in the arenas and AB. I probably wouldn attempt anything more than that until you gain a bit of experience.

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Old Jan 08, 2008, 10:09 AM // 10:09   #14
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Well thanks for those that gave help i am very new to the game so was just asking for some help.
I suppose i can explain some of the reasoning behind some of them i thought read the wind and melandru's arrows would make a good combination or possibly read the wind with poison arrows.

But yeah shockingly enough i was asking for help because i was snuck and needed it i wouldnt be posting a thread like this if i thought i had the perfect build.
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Old Jan 08, 2008, 10:18 AM // 10:18   #15
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i thought read the wind and melandru's arrows would make a good combination or possibly read the wind with poison arrows.
The problem with this mate is that you can only have one preperation active at one time so its impossible to have them both up.

Your main problem seems to be that your investing too many points across too many attributes. Try specialising in only 2 or 3 and you'll find your results are much better
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Old Jan 08, 2008, 10:23 AM // 10:23   #16
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Ah ok, well thanks for the help ^^.
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Old Jan 08, 2008, 10:31 AM // 10:31   #17
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Ah ok, well thanks for the help ^^.
you have only got 8 skills (well actually seven since resurrection signet is just mandatory)

7 skills doesn't mean you have to use 1 skill out of each attribute. By just sticking with 2-3 attributes, you're skills will become stronger. 11-10-10, 12-10-8 or 12-9-9 are the most common distributions. It will still allow you to use different combinations (you have access to about 18 skills per attribute with just owning prophecies), however without weakening the green numbers =)

and btw. By pvp build, I suppose you mean RA build? Never take (ranger) spirits in RA. They can hurt your team badly sometimes. Only use them in some kind of team build in either TA or HA.
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Old Jan 08, 2008, 10:33 AM // 10:33   #18
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New build probally still needs abit of work but it looks better?
Rend Enchantments
Insidious Parasite
Savage Shot
Distracting Shot
Melandru's Arrow
Whriling Defense
Lightning Relfexes
Ressurection Sig

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Old Jan 08, 2008, 10:35 AM // 10:35   #19
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Never take (ranger) spirits in RA.
[skill=text]Frozen Soil[/skill] can be annoying in RA lol i've seen it backfire many times.

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New build probally still needs abit of work but it looks better?
Rend Enchantments
Insidious Parasite
Savage Shot
Distracting Shot
Melandru's Arrow
Whriling Defense
Lightning Relfexes
Ressurection Sig
Looks a lot better mate. Insidious Parasite may be hard to manage in terms of energy but try it out and see how it goes Whats your attribute points this time?
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Old Jan 08, 2008, 10:43 AM // 10:43   #20
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Curses 9
Marksmanship 9
Wilderness Survival 9
Expertise 10
Everything else i am not using is 1's.

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